Adam Mizner’s one inch punching power

  • Liam Doona

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    1st March 2021 at 9:42 am

    Great display of short range power by Adam Mizner. I may be wrong, but it seems as though Adam is sinking into his back leg and then using the reaction force from the ground to travel from his back foot all the way through his body to his fist. This could be the reason why he doesn’t need to “wind up” the punch as the power is coming from the ground. I would love to hear some other’s thoughts on this and correct me if I’m wrong.

  • Ricardo Tsoilas

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    1st March 2021 at 5:43 pm

    What is the difference between the Tai Chi one inch punch and the Wing Chun one inch punch? Do they both just use the fast twitch muscles?

  • Jason Elder

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    3rd March 2021 at 2:10 pm

    In some internal striking methods there are two waves of force. One is caused by the initial kinetic impact force from the structure making impact and the other is the mass flowing through. Perhaps Adam is so good at using his mass flow that he could cause damage and effect without the need of the initial impact though I can imagine how bad the damage if he actually hit someone while also crashing this force through them in a violent way.

  • Jason Elder

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    3rd March 2021 at 2:22 pm

    There are several modalities for short power. They all require repetitive training and not just understanding. Twitch can work but only if your structure can take the load. The best methods I have experience with don’t require twitch or explosive force at all but rely on good structure and root from a body that trains a peticular way(depending on the system). WC and Taiji though both have short range power though they generate it and express it differently.

  • Ricardo Tsoilas

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    3rd March 2021 at 6:49 pm

    If I work on improving my fast twitch muscles, would that enable me to produce the same inch power Adam Mizner demonstrates in the video posted?

  • Jason Elder

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    4th March 2021 at 4:49 pm

    The best way to gain 1 inch power as shown by Adam Mizner is to follow his curriculum from the ground up.

  • Joseph

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    4th March 2021 at 5:02 pm

    No, it won’t at all. This short power is not really based at all on fast twitch muscles. At his level there is a lot that goes in to it, far more than can be described in a forum post, and even if it was described, it wouldn’t be of much help, because you have to train it to understand it. I very superficial explanation is that waves of force are propagated through the soft tissues of the body, aided by gravity and of course the ground, and by a stretch in the fascia. As @Jason says, you need to train his system to get these results, because you need a few qualities to produce it, not just one quality in your muscles.

  • Ricardo Tsoilas

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    4th March 2021 at 8:03 pm

    Thank you for the explanation and i like the idea of “waves of power” moving through the body. I assume there are many people training in Adam Mizner’s system, could you share a video of someone that’s learning from him that can demonstrate the same inch power when punching. Maybe the “waves” are easier for me to see if it’s a student showing it.

  • Joseph

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    4th March 2021 at 8:13 pm

    No sorry I don’t know of any video like that. I don’t think one exists that would help out anyway, because the waves are not really visible, since they occur in the soft tissues of the body (it isn’t really the same as the mechanical lever based action of throwing a punch in boxing). It’s like watching a boat bob on a wave in the ocean – you can see the boat move, and you can see a bulge in the water, but I couldn’t show you a video of the energy in the water that results in that motion. The bulge you see in the ocean is just a surface result of the motion of the energy in the liquid, and the dynamics and pattern of the energy occur over more space, and in more complexity than you perceive via just the bulge, or the movement of the boat.

  • Ricardo Tsoilas

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    4th March 2021 at 8:34 pm

    No problem, it’s off topic anyway but maybe Adam is the only one in his school that has such skill and power? It’s not uncommon for teachers to hold back information. I’m really interested in training to build the same power in my punches as shown in the video though, I just dont know where to start. I looked at DK Yoo’s videos but it seems more of a push than a strike.

  • Joseph

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    4th March 2021 at 8:50 pm

    Adam is definitely the only one who has skill and power at his level, but he is definitely not the only one in his school to be able to demonstrate this kind of short power. It isn’t a super high level skill, and is more or less a natural by-product of training in his system. You can learn different kinds of short power more easily, that are more kind of mechanical tricks. To really generate what Adam is demonstrating here though, it is a mistake to think of it as learning a technique. You have to train many qualities into your mind, body and energetic system, and it’s not a quick or easy training process. If you train diligently in his system, then I would say after a year or two you will crudely understand this short power, and be able to crudely demonstrate it yourself, and you would never have been explicitly taught it, or taught anything about striking at all. It depends on your goals – if you want a party trick one inch punch, then just train that using a Bruce Lee type method, and there’s loads of books on that. If you want a deeper more profound short power skill that you can release from anywhere on your body, it takes much more committed training, and there’s layers you need to train before getting to the minor detail of the technique.

  • Thomas Riinstain

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    5th March 2021 at 11:28 am

    “Adam is definitely the only one who has skill and power at his level” That’s a sweeping statement as Adam must have learned these skills from someone or somewhere. Personally I would assume that there are others that have the same power even if they are not in the public domain. I have read in an interview that Adam Mizner was a student of Mark Rasmus for some years, is it possible he learned to develop this “inch power” from Sifu Mark or another previous teacher? If so, there must be a method that can develop this type of power?

  • Ricardo Tsoilas

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    5th March 2021 at 9:02 pm

    Thomas, I never heard of mark rasmus before you mentioned him and I then found this video on youtube of him explaining the one inch punch. It gives me a better idea of how it’s possible but i still cant do it.

    https://youtu.be/-PiH7msMKLQ

  • Ricardo Tsoilas

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    5th March 2021 at 9:12 pm

    It’s very nice to see the inch power demonstrated without a setup and freely. I don’t feel that the partner is being compliant and the effects are real. This makes me want to start learning Tai Chi. https://youtu.be/nDbhWW2Yebs

  • Joseph

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    9th March 2021 at 5:38 pm

    I meant he is the only one on his level, with in his own school. You’re right, there are loads of people with good short power, especially because it isn’t a super high level skill. His level is obviously very high. He did used to be a student of Mark’s, but has also trained with a few other high level people. Like I said though, there’s a trick kind you can learn via pure body mechanics, and depending on how connected your body is etc., you can have some average success, but to learn true short power is not a matter of just learning short power. It is a result of training properly in a whole system, because you need to your mind/body/energetic system to be transformed to a certain extent. It requires a lot of release in your musculature, a lot of connection and strength in your fascia, and the ability to direct waves of force accurately through your frame, so that energy/force does not ‘leak out’, etc. Mark Rasmus has a load of good techniques, but has also done an incredible amount of training in taiji, qigong, meditation etc., so he has a lot of qualities present in him that you cannot emulate just by copying a technique. The same goes for Mizner. If we could just copy techniques then everyone would be able to do this stuff.

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