Was Leung Ting really a student of Ip Man?

  • Was Leung Ting really a student of Ip Man?

    Posted by Ricardo Tsoilas on 5th January 2021 at 10:26 am

    I have read through some discussions online regarding the stories of Leung Ting being a private student of Ip Man, some saying it’s real and others saying that it’s bs. Some even claim that the photos of Leung Ting and Ip man are photoshopped and fake. There is one photo of Leung Ting on the dummy with Ip Man stood next to him watching, this photo definitely looks real to me. Does anyone have any inside information on whether Leung Ting’s claims are real or false? I’m considering joining a Leung Ting affiliated Wing Chun school so it would be useful to know before I commit. Thanx.

    Ah Shan replied 1 day, 22 hours ago 4 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Alexander Jones

    Member
    5th January 2021 at 10:45 am

    “Leung Ting (Chinese: 梁挺; pinyin: Liáng Tǐng; born 28 February 1947) is a Hong Kong martial artist. He was an original student of Leung Sheung, and later became the last closed door student of Ip Man. Leung Ting is the founder and president of the International Wing Tsun Association.”

    https://youtu.be/PhCJfe7qlV0

  • Ricardo Tsoilas

    Member
    5th January 2021 at 11:06 am

    Hi Alex, Ive watched that video already and it only adds to my confusion. It would be good to hear from Wing Chun teachers that have inside knowledge on Ip Man and his students that actully learnt from his directly. I want to start learning Wing Chun, and i want to learn from the source not a watered down made up version. If Leung Ting did really learn from Ip Man, then i will commit to his system 100% Any input on this subject is much appreciated.

  • Jonnas Baines

    Member
    5th January 2021 at 12:23 pm

    In order to get an honest answer to this question, you would need to speak with a reliable source who was;
    1. A witness and saw Leung Ting learn from GM Yip Man directly.
    2. Is not involved in the politics of Wing Chun and does not benefit from financial gain from answering.

    In any case, it’s strange that the two sons of Yip Man and some of Yip Man’s students have disputed whether Leung Ting ever directly studied under Ip Man. Either Leung Ting made the whole thing up, are there are some internal politics that the public is not aware of.

    I’m not a fan of Leung Ting after the incident between Lun Gai and Tassos. Leung Ting was certainly an orchestrator in that incident and it’s difficult for me to forgive him for that.

  • Ricardo Tsoilas

    Member
    10th January 2021 at 9:13 pm

    Can anyone verify if this is indeed Leung Ting on the wooden dummy and Grand-master Ip Man stood behind him? Is this picture real or photoshopped?

    • Ah Shan

      Member
      27th March 2024 at 11:04 am

      no, that person is not Leung Ting

  • Alexander Jones

    Member
    11th January 2021 at 9:46 am

    The picture certainly looks authentic from my perspective. It would be delightful to see the video of this private lesson with Yip Man. One can only hope…

  • Jonnas Baines

    Member
    12th January 2021 at 12:59 pm

    In my option, it’s hard to understand the full background story and if Yip Man actually taught Leung Ting anything. But it certainly seems that they were aquainted. Was it a “teacher student” relationship, who knows?

  • Ricardo Tsoilas

    Member
    18th June 2021 at 11:41 pm
  • Ricardo Tsoilas

    Member
    18th June 2021 at 11:42 pm

    This video answers all of my questions regarding Leung Ting and his
    teacher Grand master Ip Man. After many months of digging around online
    for an answer, it’s clear to me now that Leung Ting was telling the
    truth all along and he did learn the wing chun wooden dummy from Grand master Ip Man.

    • Ah Shan

      Member
      26th March 2024 at 2:56 am

      There is no proof that Ip Man had taught Leung Ting the Wing Tsun system. All was the hearsay of Leung Ting and his close friends. The photo in the video is not Leung Ting and it is vague, and if that person is Leung Ting, so what, playing a Wooden Dummy in front of disciples is common in any martial arts school. I see Sifu Wan Kam Leung occasionally play Woodend Dummy in front of many of his students. Taking one or two classes from a master does not mean the student can achieve high-level skills. Furthermore, going to a wedding is a common social activity in Hong Kong and China. The evidence of IP Man and Leung Ting’s relationship is very vague. Yip Chun knows a lot about his father. If Yip Man had taught Leung Ting, his son would see or hear it. Leung Ting is proven by all the senior Wing Tsun practitioners who were Ip Man’s first generation including Wong Shun Leung, Leung Sheung, and Ip Chun, etc. Leung Ting is a well-known con man in Hong Kong and Mainland China now for his bragging ability, and this kind of person cannot be trusted.

  • Ah Shan

    Member
    26th March 2024 at 2:37 am

    Ip Man’s son Ip Chun said he had never seen his father teach Leung Ting. Leung Ting was accused by Ip Chun of taking advantage of Ip Man’s reputation 梁挺聲稱他是詠春先導者/領袖終於引起詠春界公憤 所有詠春資深者一齊舉行記者會公然指責梁挺 葉問大兒子 Yip Chun 向外披露從未見過其父親葉問授功於梁挺 出席人婚禮乃平常交際 詠春小丑謊言爆破 Leung Ting’s Wing Chun scammer was exposed in foreign newspapers. Leung Ting used Ip Man’s fame to recruit many students, not his own ability https://wingchunkungfu.eu/news/how-one-of-the-biggest-wing-chun-masters-based-his-career-on-lies

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZOnFsVeXG4&t=2s

  • Ah Shan

    Member
    26th March 2024 at 3:39 am

    There is no proof that Ip Man had taught Leung Ting. All was the hearsay of Leung Ting and his close friends. The photo in the video is not Leung Ting and it is vague, and if that person is Leung Ting, so what, playing a Wooden Dummy in front of disciples is common in any martial arts school. I see Sifu Wan Kam Leung occasionally play Woodend Dummy in front of many of his students. Taking one or two classes from a master does not mean the student can achieve high-level skills. Furthermore, attending a wedding is a common social activity in Hong Kong and China. The evidence of IP Man and Leung Ting’s relationship is very vague. Yip Chun knows a lot about his father. If Yip Man had taught Leung Ting, his son would see or hear it. Leung Ting is proven by all the senior Wing Tsun practitioners who were Ip Man’s first disciples including Wong Shung Leung, Leung Sheung, Ip Chun, etc. Leung Ting is a well-known con man in Hong Kong and Mainland China now for his bragging ability, and this kind of person cannot be trusted.

  • Ah Shan

    Member
    26th March 2024 at 9:24 am

    Just sitting there can prove he was the disciple of Ip Man. Lots of people had sat next to Bruce Lee and Ip Man and took photos too. Are you a fool?

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